I also find this hard to believe. 170 million Euros in a country where the unemployment rate has been for the last decade at 25% or more is kind of implausible. Then how are these 14 elders supposed to circumvent the many COs, DOs, and branch visitors that would likely peep in every once in a while? The article mentions the use of a "cepillo" which denotes a donation tray, which we know the JWs dont use. . . I smell fish and its not the yummy sushi kind.
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Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation
by cappytan inthese men are appointed by holy spirit,.
here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.
basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).
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Samuel Herd misogyny ... Does anyone know the background of this video?
by Letts Party inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba.
samuel herd saying things i never thought possible from a gb member.. does anyone know the background?
who was this talk directed to?
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really??? that old? I'm trying to see if I could concusively confirm that it is in fact Sam Herd. I dont want to spread this and then have it turn out that its a hoax.
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Samuel Herd misogyny ... Does anyone know the background of this video?
by Letts Party inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba.
samuel herd saying things i never thought possible from a gb member.. does anyone know the background?
who was this talk directed to?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqzc2M8_MBA
Samuel Herd saying things I never thought possible from a GB member.
Does anyone know the background? Who was this talk directed to? I just happened to find it after one of you referred to it in a previous post. It knocked my socks off!
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Any elders out there? How to Local needs talks work?
by Letts Party inso a local needs talk was lovingly given at our hall last week that i'm positive targeted me specifically.
it had to do with missing meetings for work.
they even had a demo on what we should do if our boss asks us to stay overtime on a meeting night (basically say "no" and risk losing your great job which you have no desire whatsoever to lose)... so i'm aware that there's a sort of protocol the elders follow when someone in the hall needs to work on something.
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Thank you and everyone else for your answers. I really don't think this local needs talk was a "marking talk" of the kind Paralipomenon mentioned. I'm an MS and someone seemed fazed even one bit by this and everyone, including the elders greeted me warmaly both before and after the meeting as they normally do. I'm not sure that its well known that I was the subject of the talk, but I know it is because the elders had mentioned the issue to me in private in the past.
I wouldn't mind stepping down at all truthfully but I think it might be a little too soon for that.
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Any elders out there? How to Local needs talks work?
by Letts Party inso a local needs talk was lovingly given at our hall last week that i'm positive targeted me specifically.
it had to do with missing meetings for work.
they even had a demo on what we should do if our boss asks us to stay overtime on a meeting night (basically say "no" and risk losing your great job which you have no desire whatsoever to lose)... so i'm aware that there's a sort of protocol the elders follow when someone in the hall needs to work on something.
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So a local needs talk was lovingly given at our hall last week that I'm positive targeted me specifically. It had to do with missing meetings for work. They even had a demo on what we should do if our boss asks us to stay overtime on a meeting night (basically say "no" and risk losing your great job which you have no desire whatsoever to lose)... So I'm aware that there's a sort of protocol the elders follow when someone in the hall needs to work on something. First they mention it in the local needs and they go from there. But what happens next if I don't shape up? Will they begin to approach me personally? Would it be good enough for them if I say I go to a different hall to make up the meetings I miss? It doesn't even happen often. Perhaps once or 2x per month on either Thrusdays or Sundays when we have meeting.
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10 hour basic pioneer provision question
by Letts Party ini remember hearing about this rumor around the time of the annual meeting.
did this really happen?
i haven't heard anything about it at my meeting yet.
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thanks Sir82 for the clarification.
I just read your bio. I'm in the same predicament but i'm an MS. My wife luckily has been pretty accepting of my doubts but she won't leave without her parents and that'll never happen. We have frequent discussions about the asinine things we hear at convention and meetings but that's where it stops.
Anyway, I was asking because i know another elder that mentioned he heard about the 10 hour basic pioneer provision. If it was just a rumor, could that potentially mean he's also a lurker here? that'd be awesome! I know he's intelligent and him lurking about here would make sense but that would still be incredible!
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10 hour basic pioneer provision question
by Letts Party ini remember hearing about this rumor around the time of the annual meeting.
did this really happen?
i haven't heard anything about it at my meeting yet.
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I remember hearing about this rumor around the time of the annual meeting. Did this really happen? I haven't heard anything about it at my meeting yet. Any clarification will be much appreciated.
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It is official they're selling off Kingdom Halls in Britain
by raymond frantz ini posted here a week ago some disturbing news for congregations being consolidated in britain.
my goodness that was nothing !
a letter was read today from bethel addressed to all congregations in britain that can only be described as the biggest news for years.the main points:.
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My congregation which is constantly in a deficit for its own expenses recently sent over $10,000 to the branch in New York. This was all the money our congregation had saved for the LA Building Fund. Several months back, an announcement was made for the starting of this fund since several kingdom Halls need to be built in the LA area to meet the growth. Contributions to the local KH diminished to meet demand for the LAKH building fund and then it was all sent over in one lump sum never to be seen again. $10,000 may not sound like a lot, but it is to us! (we're barely paying our bills each month).
Imagine how many iPads we could have bought for poor old Sister Appleseed who is saving all her pennies to purchase one.
(EDIT: by LA I mean Los Angeles)
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What song or line from a song bests describes your time as a JW?????
by karter inwaisted days and waisted nites.. freddy fender..
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Not sure if this was mentioned already, but a song that always spoke to me and even planted some of my first seeds of doubt was Bad Religion's "Live Again"...
One of the lines was ... "What good is something if you can't have it until you die? Live Again, Live Again... would you give it all up to live again?"
Rumor had it that Greg Graffin (the lead singer) is an ex-jw aside from being a UCLA professor of life science. He was awesome!
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The Assembly Experiences - Standard Format
by sd-7 inmatthew 6:1: "take good care not to practice your righteousness in front of men in order to be observed by them; otherwise you will have no reward with your father who is in the heavens.".
"now we'd like to call to the platform brother so-and-so, a [let's face it, capital letters should be used] regular pioneer and elder in the blah-blah-blah congregation.
brother so-and-so, what helped you to put kingdom interests first?".
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oh my god!! this made me crack up so hard!!! love it! lol